TheGreek.com released Pac 12 football conference odds over the weekend, and Oregon is listed at +150 to win the conference championship, followed by USC at+250, Stanford and Arizona are both +500.
Agree, especially Stanford. They get Oregon at home and the winner of that game figures to win the North and be the favorite in the Championship game.
I know I am an ASU homer, but from a value perspective, Devils seem to have the most value in the South. Any of those 4 teams could win it IMO, so why not take a shot on the team w/ the best D of the four, who has a potential all-conference QB and the longest odds at 5-1?
Just don’t understand why Arizona is +175 to win the South and ASU is +500.
As a USC fan, I don’t get why USC is +250 to win the Pac-12. Yes, they avoid Oregon but they have to play on the road at Oregon State, and last time I checked, have Lane Kiffin at the helm. Add in an awful defensive secondary and a new qb and I see them struggling this year. Another year of overinflated spreads or will the market adjust?
Don’t agree with either. UCLA at 250 means you think they have at least a 1/3.5 (or about 28%) shot at the league. Assuming the CCG is a tossup (very generous given the North competition, that means you’re assuming better than a 50% chance at the division in what looks to the naked eye like a four-way race without any particular clear front-runners.
For Stanford, I just think they’re in for a bigger struggle than most project them at. I have them power rated fairly similarly to Oregon State and Washington, much below where I have the DUcks.
I understand where they are coming from making USC +250 to win the PAC-12. If they win the South they’d only have to “upset” either Stanford or Oregon, most likely on the road, to win the conference. And anything can happen in one game.
+250 is the equivalent of +7.5 and last year Stanford was -8.5 against UCLA.
Yeah I am not a big Kiffin fan either. Just amazes me how that guy got to be head coach at two of the most storied college football programs in the country with almost no head coaching experience (and the experience he did have was negative).
USC would still have to win the division for that bet to work though. +150 to win the division and +250 for the league means you’re assuming they’d be FAVORITES in the CCG.
If you bet $100 on USC to win division, you’d then have $250 if that happened. rolling it over to win league would mean risking $250 to win another $100, which is horrific odds for a CCG.
If you’re high at all on USC, you’d take the division odds. If they make the CCG there’s almost no way they could be more than -150 favorites, which means you could still end up with a better payout than if you bet them to take the league at +250. Heck, if it was -150 on the CCG (and that’s almost a worst case), you could pocket your initial $100, put your division winnings ($150) on the CCG, and then either you’d get the same payout as the +250 league odds or you’d lose the CCG but still get your original money back.
UCLA and Stanford at +250 seem like solid value.
Agree, especially Stanford. They get Oregon at home and the winner of that game figures to win the North and be the favorite in the Championship game.
I know I am an ASU homer, but from a value perspective, Devils seem to have the most value in the South. Any of those 4 teams could win it IMO, so why not take a shot on the team w/ the best D of the four, who has a potential all-conference QB and the longest odds at 5-1?
Just don’t understand why Arizona is +175 to win the South and ASU is +500.
As a USC fan, I don’t get why USC is +250 to win the Pac-12. Yes, they avoid Oregon but they have to play on the road at Oregon State, and last time I checked, have Lane Kiffin at the helm. Add in an awful defensive secondary and a new qb and I see them struggling this year. Another year of overinflated spreads or will the market adjust?
Don’t agree with either. UCLA at 250 means you think they have at least a 1/3.5 (or about 28%) shot at the league. Assuming the CCG is a tossup (very generous given the North competition, that means you’re assuming better than a 50% chance at the division in what looks to the naked eye like a four-way race without any particular clear front-runners.
For Stanford, I just think they’re in for a bigger struggle than most project them at. I have them power rated fairly similarly to Oregon State and Washington, much below where I have the DUcks.
I believe the +250 for Stanford and UCLA is to win their respective divisions.
Stanford is +500 and UCLA is +800 to win the CCG.
Sorry, misread. Still don’t think either has much value though.
I understand where they are coming from making USC +250 to win the PAC-12. If they win the South they’d only have to “upset” either Stanford or Oregon, most likely on the road, to win the conference. And anything can happen in one game.
+250 is the equivalent of +7.5 and last year Stanford was -8.5 against UCLA.
Good points, but I am very bearish on Kiffin.
Yeah I am not a big Kiffin fan either. Just amazes me how that guy got to be head coach at two of the most storied college football programs in the country with almost no head coaching experience (and the experience he did have was negative).
USC would still have to win the division for that bet to work though. +150 to win the division and +250 for the league means you’re assuming they’d be FAVORITES in the CCG.
If you bet $100 on USC to win division, you’d then have $250 if that happened. rolling it over to win league would mean risking $250 to win another $100, which is horrific odds for a CCG.
If you’re high at all on USC, you’d take the division odds. If they make the CCG there’s almost no way they could be more than -150 favorites, which means you could still end up with a better payout than if you bet them to take the league at +250. Heck, if it was -150 on the CCG (and that’s almost a worst case), you could pocket your initial $100, put your division winnings ($150) on the CCG, and then either you’d get the same payout as the +250 league odds or you’d lose the CCG but still get your original money back.